where is the va in terms of catching up to the very different foreign policy challenges and returning veterans challenges that we have today. >> ari, i'm going to pull a pivot. i don't want to talk about that. i want to talk about something else, which ties in both the petraeus story and veterans. >> well, we have a rule that if you want a pulitzer, you can completely ignore the host's questions. so you're fine today. >> fair enough. i forge on. the thing that struck me about the petraeus story is the damage that this puts on the troops and veterans. because, look, the military, for the last 10 or 15 years, has emphasized that it's a values-based organization, and the primary value that i hear talked about all the time, particularly in combat among what i call the working class of the military, the sergeants is and the lieutenants who do most of the heavy lifting in combat, the key value is doing the right thing when no one's looking. and there was nobody in the military, i think, who exemplified that more than david petraeus. he talked about it all the time. now to find out that he w